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Hi floorplan experts. Is there a model 3260EL for 2016? I see one here https://lakeshore-rv.com/rvs/2016-bighorn-3260el-floor-plan-5th-wheel-heartland-rv/ but nothing on the heartland website describing this floorplan. it appears to be a longer 3160 with a king bed :-) . will this be...

yes I've been chewing on that as well -- trying to avoid rails in the bed, so that B&W companion slider is looking good. this is the only slider solution I'm aware of that does not use rails; the B&W turnoverball system seems very attractive to me -- more so than the current OE hitch preps...

Sure, Ram does offer the GM and Ford equivalents -- those are crew cabs in Ram terminology. In addition to the standard crew cab offerings (which have LB flavors), Ram offers a more spacious mega cab with reclining rear seats. the W/B is so long they don't offer it in the long box.

yea I would be all over a LB but DW wants the mega cab...

lol that's funny. So at the time you nearly soiled your shorts, were you running a B&W turnoverball system? Here some more specific details behind my question: 1. I'm told that the B&W system in combination with the new RAM S/B trucks offer a very high success rate without a slider. these...

Hello all -- posting here to ask for real -world 2013-2015 Ram 3500 SRW short box 'no slider' hitch combos that are working "in the wild". In particular I'd like to know if any of you BH owners are towing with the B&W companion (turnoverball or puck ready) with this TV -- do you find that the...

good conversation, all, thanks. I suspect that electrical failure is much higher probability than hydraulic failure, in which case the Lippert over ride system (as pointed out by danemayer should work well. Essentially (thanks danemayer) this allows one to run the hydraulic pump with a drill...

Too many variables to generalize, but you can measure this -- Tie a string to the pin, stretch it out to the edge of the Elkridge, then swing the string around to see how close it comes to the cab. Or measure the distance from hitch to cab and compare that against the half the width of the...

ok I gotta ask you experienced short bed guys: do you like your manual sliders or do you wish you had put in the (heavy) pull-rite dynamic type system you can forget about? And does the HL front cap really give you an advantage? The reason I ask is because we short bed guys have to watch our...

I wonder if it would be best to leave the fan off? The AC air will naturally fall and hot air will naturally rise, so maybe the ceiling fan is interfering with the natural air flow that the HVAC system natively provides.

good advise AI.K. its hard to do and takes time when the driving distance is 2.5 hours :-) but you are absolutely right, and thank-you for the tips. I've never felt the TV was in a bad spot -- in fact it can be seen from anywhere including the kitchen and the stairs, and TV is just not the...

Some good sense here - if the question is about 3500 SRW vs DRW for a 14,000 lb. trailer, there's just no beating the stability built into the dually, even though a 3500 SRW will be within its weight limits. Some folks have limitations and need a SRW truck -- and the new ones especially are...

while extrapolating pin weight is certainly a reasonable "first cut" approximation (I've done it), it may not be a good indictor of loaded pin weight (as I have found out too). it would be best to understand where the water tanks and storage locations are (with respect to the axles). nothing...

right that was where I was headed as well. and as pointed out by myself and others, you have to consider GAWR of the TV as well, and pin weight contributes to that. a 6500 lb axle in a 9750 lb tube is still only a 6500 lb axle, and even then you are going to be GVWR limited, not GAWR limited :-)

I' not familiar with Ford drive trains... but that is an interesting way to rate the rear GAWR! A 9750 lb axle is found only on duallies (in the dodge world), accompanied by four tires and suitable increases in GVWR as well, over the SRW trucks. You're saying you can put 22.5" rims and a G...

for sure... there may be no perfect rig. it is interesting, however, the number of folks who apparently agree with the HL dinette philosophy, so as first timers we'll have to consider the experience of others as well!

The symptoms you describe and the suggested root cause implies that something is dissipating the energy delivered by the battery, such that the pump does not run at full power so that the hydraulics are operating at half mast. The reason this is interesting is this; if this is true then the...

Dont forget about the axle rating. I won't open the weight police can of worms here by ignoring TV GVWR -- I'm deliberately limiting my comments to the axle itself with the caution that one cannot just simply add spring capacity to the rear and expect all to be good. Yes, the pin loads the...

These are all good floor plans, and we are still looking at the 3270. What I don't like about the 3270 is that 1 the shower is too small for me (3010 has a larger shower) 2 the entertainment center is too 'front and center' 3 the rear living room has a view out of only two of tree walls...

you must have had some serious weight distribution hitch on that TT, or you over loaded the front lol. AT 10% on the tongue, you would have less than 1000 lbs (without WD) up there, but a 16000 lb 5ver with 25% on the pin would have loaded the axle with 4,000 lbs!

No direct experience here but just consider the physics of the tow point well behind the rear axle... It's a tail wagging a tail, as in every movement of the TV is magnified and applied to the trailer. There are hitches that improve upon this but frankly one of the reasons 5vers tow well is...

Thanks. I guess for occasional use, if one is amenable to the cost, the LP genny does meet a need. gasoline genny would mean carrying a third fuel (TV is diesel) in the truck bed. I talked the regional BH rep, who admitted he didn't know if the 2016 BH 3010 could take 40 #ers, but he said a...

thanks for that link -- my bad I was looking in the wrong place (coach owners manual) for this information! :-). I take it that if you have hydraulic failure you are toast -- there is no way to operate, retract or extend the jacks with elbow grease?

40# tanks -- the options in the build list and the options list on the website, specifically for the 3010, indicate that 40# tanks are available. I just need to rationalize this as you mentioned-- perhaps this is now an option that was not available previously on this model

This is an informative thread; thanks for all the insights. I have some questions I haven't yet found answers to: What happens if you experience system failure -- what is the backup plan? suppose you boondock, and run the batteries down by mistake after disconnecting from the TV, or...

good clarifications. So "Generator prep" really assumes the LP model which is the only option. it must include the LP line(s) necessary to mooch off of the on-board tanks. Accordingly, when you say "no fuel cell" you mean the genny compartment is not able to accommodate a gas genny with its...

Thanks thats good stuff. so must haves include dual pane, electric cord real (saw one on an Arctic Fox. very nice), and probably yetti. Follow-up question about the leveling system - what happens if the system fails: What is the backup plan? what happens If it fails with jacks extended? By...

Thanks everyone for the good comments. I can certainly see, with the difficulty of removing the underbelly cover, that it would not be an appropriate part of the PDI to remove it. Short of shoving a small camera in there with an onboard light :D it seems for these trailers one just needs to...

Hi all -- DW and I have a few questions for the BH experts 1. which options would you recommend as "must have"? for example, for noise and condensation control it seems to me that dual pane windows would be highly recommended 2. do you all like the slide awning package? seems like a good...

Thanks osisms! the local dealer did not demonstrate that. Now, the BC appears to have a real free standing dinette with four chairs (they look small and very close together), which his very different from the BH. wondering if the BH approach might actually be better -- with the 2 folding...

Nice. Thanks again for the insights. Looks like it's an easy option to put a std sink in the bc instead of the bowl. I've studied the msrp and special builds documents - - very helpful indeed. Good suggestion to ask the factory how to make the bh dinette similar to the bc 4 chair dinette...

I can appreciate that.. and frankly the BH dealer here is what gives me some pause, and why I would consider a half day's drive away. best to have the best dealer locally, but I'm not sure that will be available to me.

70% leaning towards new, and not this season. trying to skip the experimental trailers and incremental learning, and go right for the target lifestyle we want -- mostly weekend warrior and occasional 1-2 week trips (Both of us are still working now) Need to have 10 years useful life minimum...

thank you all -- good comments. Is taking off the underbelly cover just not necessary? how does one inspect the frame and other elements for rust and workmanship issues, i.e strain relief for wires, how the tanks are suspended, etc?

I did start to get nervous when the sales dude said he had 17 years experience :D lol this is real good advice. yes there is even a facebook page devoted to keystone issues! I acknowledge there will be brand loyalty, and there will be successful Montana experiences as well. But yes you are...

Thank-you all for the informative comments. see-- first time rv'er I didn't think of things like air circulation! thats a good call. As for the Keystone pricing and all of that, yes frankly that was one of the things that drove me to BH, which is why one doesn't want to take the salesman's...

Hi BH fans I have a couple of questions as a prospective buyer: 1. pre-purchase inspection: before taking delivery and committing to remaining payment, what level of detail in the PDI is generally permitted? AFter reading extensively, my PDI list is getting rather long. I mean, to truly...

Hi everyone, Long time reader here and Heartland watcher, new prospective first time buyer. Today, DW and I looked at a few Bighorns and a Montana. I was expecting precisely the opposite of what I observed. Perhaps you good folks can give me some additional perspective. We really liked...

Hi all. I've joined the forum because DW and I are essentially in the pre-shopping phase, i.e. too early in the process to get real serious but not too early to start discovering details! Any and all calibrations are most welcome -- we are at the moment lookiing towards heartland to see if the...