How Many Have Fired Their Weapon?

I carry when traveling. Because it's just my mom and I, we are always alert to the company around us. We have been in many campgrounds where we are watched- makes me uncomfortable. People take notice that there isn't a man around! I also got a bigger dog


Carleen
2011 Ford F-350 6.7
2011 Big Horn 3585RL

I carry 99% of the time. Even at home, I've either got one on me or very close at hand.


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One man in our campground in Florida last winter did shoot his gun. Put a hole in his $300000 motor home and the bullet lodged in the next camper. No one in the other camper while the bullet hit the kitchen area.
Cost to repair the other camper was above $3000. Plus his own was not known at the time.
I am Canadian and do stop at many walmarts when we travel. My truck has an alarm and I doubt anyone can break in my unit before I can alarm for help.
Plus we are not allowed to have a weapon unless it's locked up with the amunitions locked up in a separate cabinet, its the law here.

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Carleen said:

I carry when traveling. Because it's just my mom and I, we are always alert to the company around us. We have been in many campgrounds where we are watched- makes me uncomfortable. People take notice that there isn't a man around! I also got a bigger dog


Carleen
2011 Ford F-350 6.7
2011 Big Horn 3585RL

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I'd be interested in how you do this legally across multiple states. When you say "carry", I am assuming you mean a handgun and not just keeping a shotgun or rifle in the coach. Of course I am a believer that being alive to defend yourself when charged with a felony, such as illegal carry, is very important, BUT - I'm not willing to go to jail because I got pulled over on a traffic stop and the officer saw a bulge in my pocket.

I'm not even suggesting you are doing something illegal - I just want to know how you do it so I can copy it.

Lynn1130 said:

I had an altercation with a skunk but better judgement kept me from using my weapon. Do you know how far they can spray?

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You should mention skunks, I seem to remember we were camping in upper New York state. One early morning my DW and daughter headed out to the restroom. As they approached the ladies room they were surprised by a fluffy skunk (or maybe I should say the skunk was surprised by them)! Our daughter got it full force. Horrified, they returned back to the pop-up but before they could open the door I was already shewing them away as the stench was the strongest (acrid) odor I think I've ever come across. Fortunately, we had a couple of cans of tomato paste; so I escorted them back up to the rest room (no, I didn't have a gun in my hand ) where the skunk spray was neutralized--never saw the skunk. Out daughter was about four feet from the skunk! Moral of the story--don't carry a gun for skunks but you should seriously think about carrying some tomato sauce juice!

caissiel said:

One man in our campground in Florida last winter did shoot his gun. Put a hole in his $300000 motor home and the bullet lodged in the next camper. No one in the other camper while the bullet hit the kitchen area.
Cost to repair the other camper was above $3000. Plus his own was not known at the time.
I am Canadian and do stop at many walmarts when we travel. My truck has an alarm and I doubt anyone can break in my unit before I can alarm for help.
Plus we are not allowed to have a weapon unless it's locked up with the amunitions locked up in a separate cabinet, its the law here.

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Regarding the moron who put holes in two RV's and endangered the safety of others ... was he arrested? Was he charged? In my mind, the biggest problem with the more "gun control" argument is that we don't enforce the laws that are in place and then using some perverted logic, we feel more laws wil help. You can bet that he broke more that one law, even with an "accidental" discharge and in my opinion, regardless of cause, he should have been charged. Accidents happen every day with motor behicles and usually someone gets a ticket or arrested.

The only problem with any alarm system is if the intruder breaches the premises while you are in it and you (or the alarm) sends out a call for help, on a good day (on average) that help is 7 minutes away. Don't rely on other gallant campers to come to your aid - some very well may but most would likely exhibit a healthy amount of caution. Less response time is unlikely and more time is more the norm - especially in a campground that is remote. In short, an intruder who enters any property while occupied is a deadly intruder and your chance of bodily injury is astronomical. The police really can't help you much at that point, other than to arrest (maybe) the perps after they've done their damage. While you doubt that anyone could breach before help arrived ("I doubt anyone can break in my unit before I can alarm for help"), I am pretty sure they could. A simple pry bar can blow past an RV door before you know what hit you. Alarms are great for scaring off thieves, not for deterring an aggressive dangerous felon who doesn't care if he hurts someone while robbing them.

None of this even begins to cover the value or danger of being armed all of the time by carrying a handgun and I REALLY don't want to enter into that endless debate! Also, I'm not at all debating your decision to not carry firearms - just explaining why I don't see your logic. Finally, your law is your law and everyone (even visitors) should respect that. In fact, I'm right now trying to figure out how I will drive to Alaska while respecting your laws and at the same time protecting our lives and property. I don't mind keeping the ammo and weapon separate - it's getting it legally acroos the border that is the problem.

BigGuy82 said:

I'd be interested in how you do this legally across multiple states. When you say "carry", I am assuming you mean a handgun and not just keeping a shotgun or rifle in the coach. Of course I am a believer that being alive to defend yourself when charged with a felony, such as illegal carry, is very important, BUT - I'm not willing to go to jail because I got pulled over on a traffic stop and the officer saw a bulge in my pocket.

I'm not even suggesting you are doing something illegal - I just want to know how you do it so I can copy it.

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You can get permits from more than one state and doing so will allow you to carry in about 37 states.
Utah and Florida seem to be the most popular non-resident issuers.
There is a lot that you need to be aware of when seeking a permit as well as carrying.
Here is a link that might help you in finding out what permits are honored in each state. [LINK]
Do your homework.

Peace
Dave

BigGuy82 said:

I'd be interested in how you do this legally across multiple states. When you say "carry", I am assuming you mean a handgun and not just keeping a shotgun or rifle in the coach. Of course I am a believer that being alive to defend yourself when charged with a felony, such as illegal carry, is very important, BUT - I'm not willing to go to jail because I got pulled over on a traffic stop and the officer saw a bulge in my pocket.

I'm not even suggesting you are doing something illegal - I just want to know how you do it so I can copy it.

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The "Legal Heat" IOS app is a good reference on state-by-state laws and carry issues.

Some states do not allow you to possess a firearm even locked up in your RV, without a local permit, and they don't recognize licenses issued by other states. And local permits are impossible to get if you're a non-resident.

When traveling from state to state, Federal Law allows you to carry, with certain restrictions, as you cross from a legal state, through an illegal state, to another legal state. A few states, in particular New York and New Jersey, ignore Federal Law and will arrest you, confiscate your weapon, and make you appear in court. At that point you can use the Federal Law as an affirmative defense and after considerable expense and inconvenience, you'll be acquitted.

While they may not go as far as New York and New Jersey, Maryland is also hostile to carrying firearms. Illinois and California as well.

The law is murky. In some places, if your RV is unhitched and hooked up to utilities, it's regarded as a home. But if hitched and ready to travel, it's an extension of your tow vehicle. The law is different for each situation.

If you are covered by Federal law while traveling from state to state, but you stop for some reason in the state where it's illegal to carry, there's no definition of how long you can stop before Federal Law no longer protects you.

Check out Legal Heat.

And be prepared to lock up your gun with ammo locked up separately when traveling in a hostile state, and better if not anywhere in your tow vehicle.

I have never had to use any of my weapons in defense of myself or my loved ones. I hope I never have to. I know enough about myself that if I need to I can. I respect anyone's decision to not own any firearms. I am not going to judge you, make fun of you, or criticize your decision. I also am not going to use my weapon to defend you unless you are standing right next to me and get to benefit from me fearing for my own life. From the training courses I have taken I do not believe fearing for your life means taking yourself out of a safe situation and inserting yourself in someone else s lesser situation. Even if I see that you are in harms way I will respect your decision about fire arms and stay away. I will however dial 911 on your behalf and then be the best witness I can possibly be. In return I ask that you offer the same amount of respect to me and anyone else who has a weapons permit.

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I have never had to use any of my weapons in defense of myself or my loved ones. I hope I never have to. I know enough about myself that if I need to I can. I respect anyone's decision to not own any firearms. I am not going to judge you, make fun of you, or criticize your decision. I also am not going to use my weapon to defend you unless you are standing right next to me and get to benefit from me fearing for my own life. From the training courses I have taken I do not believe fearing for your life means taking yourself out of a safe situation and inserting yourself in someone else s lesser situation. Even if I see that you are in harms way I will respect your decision about fire arms and stay away. I will however dial 911 on your behalf and then be the best witness I can possibly be. In return I ask that you offer the same amount of respect to me and anyone else who has a weapons permit.

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Great response!! In any situation my first response will be to protect "my" loved ones. If "my" loved ones are out of harms way I'll do what I can to help others if I deem there is a decent chance of a good outcome. I have mixed feelings about carrying open to view in public verses concealed. I tend to lean toward concealed.

Anyone have any input on my earlier question: how do I get a shotgun (forget about a handgun in Canada) across borders when I drive to Alaska?

https://heartlandowners.org/showthr...a-Canada?highlight=get+shotgun+through+canada

See post #8.

Lynn1130 - thanks for the suggestion. I was able to find a useful link to the RCMP regarding long gun pre-registration. It's too bad that some of these threads are dragged into the PC arena so that the core message is buried. This one had 75 messages to sort through - mostly off topic.

Oh well - at least I did get the info I needed. Thanks!

One of my complaints for sometime. Most times we seem to be a bunch of old people babbling on about nothing but every-once-in-awhile a good piece of info slips in

While I am on this topic I know that we want to help, especially new owners coming on, but it seems that we answer the same questions over and over, sometimes within two or three threads of each other rather than referring the person to the thread, started a day ago that would answer the question. This creates massive clutter on the site and makes it difficult to search to find an answer. So people give up and just ask the same question again.

I have found many, many helpful threads and have to say that this site has a definite use and benefit but we have too many topics drawn off message by long winded and unhelpful blather.

If we want to blather on about no topic in general then we should start a thread with that purpose but when someone asked a question we should try hard to help and keep that threat on topic. And don't be afraid to send them to "search" or search and give them the thread. Be helpful but not by creating another 300 message long blog. I got blasted in one thread for suggesting that we do just that. But the truth is being helpful is also teaching someone to use resources to be self reliant. Sorry got going and couldn't stop. And I am guilty of getting off topic. But I have answered the thread question in a previous post.

Lynn1130 said:

One of my complaints for sometime. Most times we seem to be a bunch of old people babbling on about nothing but every-once-in-awhile a good piece of info slips in

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I am NOT old !!! I am like a fine wine - aging well.

Lynn1130 said:

One of my complaints for sometime. Most times we seem to be a bunch of old people babbling on about nothing but every-once-in-awhile a good piece of info slips in...

...I have found many, many helpful threads and have to say that this site has a definite use and benefit but we have too many topics drawn off message by long winded and unhelpful blather.

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Im pretty good at skimming through "blather" and am one of those that have found many "good pieces of information" that has slipped in! As for referencing other threads, I find the "Similar Threads" box at the bottom of each page to be I really helpful. I think the little bits of personal advice dropped into a tesponse is what has created some of the personal connections you can feel on this forum. Oops, sorry. Off topic!

Hope to never have to fire my weapon.

Sandy

BusManRG said:

Im pretty good at skimming through "blather" and am one of those that have found many "good pieces of information" that has slipped in! As for referencing other threads, I find the "Similar Threads" box at the bottom of each page to be I really helpful. I think the little bits of personal advice dropped into a tesponse is what has created some of the personal connections you can feel on this forum. Oops, sorry. Off topic!

Hope to never have to fire my weapon.

Sandy

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Don't disagree ... MOST of the time. But when a simple question of how to transport a long gun through Canada turns into 75 or so comments about gun control, Second Amendment, Sheriff Arpaio, hunting, etc. - that's a little much. Not the end of the world for me - I just move on to another topic. It's not just this UG - it's universal. But to your point about hidden gems of info - imagine how many of them are lost to those folks who could use them, simply because they don't want to wade through a miasma of "stuff".

And yes, this IS off topic but since I started it, it's OK :

Great discussion my heartland family most know I am LEO and all of you are right the best defense is offense please be aware of your surroundings. You will know when something isn't right or someone and always remember once that bullet leaves your weapon of choice you are responsible for that round weather it hit your target or go beyond it . With everything going on we have to be safe and protect our family and friends. We gather together at rally's and other events for us to have a great time . Other people of opportunity will sometimes try to take advantage of it . Not all people are bad as I have found in my many years . Most are opportunistic. Be safe and know yes I am always carrying and I am always looking when we come together. Please be safe and enjoy your 2nd amendment freedom in our great country.

The problem with aging wine is that sometimes it "corks" and become vinegar. Present company excluded.

BigGuy82 said:

I'd be interested in how you do this legally across multiple states. When you say "carry", I am assuming you mean a handgun and not just keeping a shotgun or rifle in the coach. Of course I am a believer that being alive to defend yourself when charged with a felony, such as illegal carry, is very important, BUT - I'm not willing to go to jail because I got pulled over on a traffic stop and the officer saw a bulge in my pocket.

I'm not even suggesting you are doing something illegal - I just want to know how you do it so I can copy it.

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I cave a CCL and 33 other states honor Colorado's CCL. They include the states I visit often. I carry during travel but not when at the site. I also have a secure system in my trailer because we travel with my son. There are rules in place that no other kids are allowed in the trailer because I have firearms (regardless of them being behind lock and key). We have a phrase that is used if either my mom and I are uncomfortable that means I need to carry. We take this issue very seriously. I practice monthly and am very capable of safe handling and understand the rules and limitations to my CCL.


Carleen
2011 Ford F-350 6.7
2011 Big Horn 3585RL