SOLVED: Missing Atmospheric Vacuum Breaker for Black Tank Flusher
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boatto5er
Founding VA Chap Ldr (Ret)
Re: ATF: Landmark - Black Tank Flush
Actually, so we won't be there (my eyes!, my eyes!)
Actually, so we won't be there (my eyes!, my eyes!)
wdk450
Well-known member
Re: I don't think it's supposed to be this way
There is an illustration of the system here: http://www.bandbmolders.com/files/TankFlusherInstructions2.pdf
On the crimp ring issue, the illustration seems to show barb connectors (which need crimp rings with PEX tubing).
Funny for a piece of plumbing that they spec a MINIMUM test pressure of 40 PSI, but nowhere in their documentation have I ever been able to find a MAXIMUM water pressure specification. My atmospheric breaker valve blew apart, (ruining my $220 power converter) due to suspected high water pressure at the RV park I was staying at. I have since gotten a water pressure regulator.
I replaced the atmospheric valve with a brass check valve. Add on tank sprayers you can buy at RV parts stores do not have atmospheric vacuum breaker valves, just check valves. http://www.camco.net/Products/Item?prodID=10049#.Ugr_T9K1Etg
There is an illustration of the system here: http://www.bandbmolders.com/files/TankFlusherInstructions2.pdf
On the crimp ring issue, the illustration seems to show barb connectors (which need crimp rings with PEX tubing).
Funny for a piece of plumbing that they spec a MINIMUM test pressure of 40 PSI, but nowhere in their documentation have I ever been able to find a MAXIMUM water pressure specification. My atmospheric breaker valve blew apart, (ruining my $220 power converter) due to suspected high water pressure at the RV park I was staying at. I have since gotten a water pressure regulator.
I replaced the atmospheric valve with a brass check valve. Add on tank sprayers you can buy at RV parts stores do not have atmospheric vacuum breaker valves, just check valves. http://www.camco.net/Products/Item?prodID=10049#.Ugr_T9K1Etg
Greengas
Well-known member
Re: I don't think it's supposed to be this way
Problem Solved! First, thanks to Don and Monica, the Colorado Heartland Chapter leaders for their help. They contacted me and they came out to my coach and Don got busy and fixed the problem. So, what specifically was the problem you say? Well, it seems that the anti siphon valve was there all along, just sitting at the bottom of the wall. And, it did not pop off or just come loose. It seems that when someone at the factory was cutting the opening for the access panel they got a bit carried away with their saw and just cut right through the pipes. Here is a photo of what Don got out of the wall
So, now all is well and I can once again flush my black tank. Thanks so much to everyone for all their help and support. This just proves that we made the right decision going with a Heartland product. There is nothing that matches the Heartland Owners group and I am proud to formally be a member.
Problem Solved! First, thanks to Don and Monica, the Colorado Heartland Chapter leaders for their help. They contacted me and they came out to my coach and Don got busy and fixed the problem. So, what specifically was the problem you say? Well, it seems that the anti siphon valve was there all along, just sitting at the bottom of the wall. And, it did not pop off or just come loose. It seems that when someone at the factory was cutting the opening for the access panel they got a bit carried away with their saw and just cut right through the pipes. Here is a photo of what Don got out of the wall
So, now all is well and I can once again flush my black tank. Thanks so much to everyone for all their help and support. This just proves that we made the right decision going with a Heartland product. There is nothing that matches the Heartland Owners group and I am proud to formally be a member.
Re: ATF: Landmark - Black Tank Flush
Ronn,
Thanks for letting us know what happened. I've already passed this along to the plant. Sure hoping this was a one-off issue. Never heard of it happening before.
That's awesome that your Chapter Leader made a house call - service visit. Bless them!
Sorry this happened and pleased it was figured out and resolved.
Ronn,
Thanks for letting us know what happened. I've already passed this along to the plant. Sure hoping this was a one-off issue. Never heard of it happening before.
That's awesome that your Chapter Leader made a house call - service visit. Bless them!
Sorry this happened and pleased it was figured out and resolved.
TravelTiger
Founding Texas-West Chapter Leaders-Retired
Re: ATF: Landmark - Black Tank Flush
What a great resolution! Thanks for sharing. THIS, folks, is why I love my HEARTLAND. This could have happened on any RV, but our owners take care of each other, share with others, and then it's passed on to the plant, all thanks to a MANUFACTURER SUPPORTED FORUM!
What a great resolution! Thanks for sharing. THIS, folks, is why I love my HEARTLAND. This could have happened on any RV, but our owners take care of each other, share with others, and then it's passed on to the plant, all thanks to a MANUFACTURER SUPPORTED FORUM!
wdk450
Well-known member
Re: I don't think it's supposed to be this way
I have been told/assured that the factory does pressure Q.A. tests on the plumbing before releasing a unit for shipment. This incident casts doubt on that claim.
I have been told/assured that the factory does pressure Q.A. tests on the plumbing before releasing a unit for shipment. This incident casts doubt on that claim.
danemayer
Well-known member
Re: I don't think it's supposed to be this way
Bill, since the sprayer has openings, the pressure testing obviously can't be done on that part of the plumbing.
Bill, since the sprayer has openings, the pressure testing obviously can't be done on that part of the plumbing.
wdk450
Well-known member
Re: I don't think it's supposed to be this way
Congratulations Heartland/Jim B./HOG Forum!!!! It feels like we accomplished something for the future Heartland Owners!!!
I am not anti-black tank flusher (although I have seen no difference in tank monitor inaccuracies when I use it/don't use it); I just want a reliable system that I am not fearful of blowing apart and spewing water in destructive ways.
Congratulations Heartland/Jim B./HOG Forum!!!! It feels like we accomplished something for the future Heartland Owners!!!
I am not anti-black tank flusher (although I have seen no difference in tank monitor inaccuracies when I use it/don't use it); I just want a reliable system that I am not fearful of blowing apart and spewing water in destructive ways.
Re: I don't think it's supposed to be this way
We didn't see any testing like that during the live factory tour. We were told that they fill the tanks at the start of the line to see if leaks occur and then dump the water at the end. And, at the end of the line it was very wet where they dumped the water.
General RV indicated to us during our demo of our 2010 BH that they do this testing.
We didn't see any testing like that during the live factory tour. We were told that they fill the tanks at the start of the line to see if leaks occur and then dump the water at the end. And, at the end of the line it was very wet where they dumped the water.
General RV indicated to us during our demo of our 2010 BH that they do this testing.
porthole
Retired
Re: I don't think it's supposed to be this way
Well at least we know why - but.....................
Looking at the picture - "if" I was to have a valve in my line, I would really prefer it was a crimp connection and not a screw on.
Well at least we know why - but.....................
Looking at the picture - "if" I was to have a valve in my line, I would really prefer it was a crimp connection and not a screw on.
