Winegard Trav'ler Questions for '14 BC 3650RL
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Re: 2014 3650rl satellite installation
I believe all Heartland 5th wheels are pre-wired for a Winegard Trav'ler roof mounted dish. For this product, there are three items that require power:
- The LNBs
- The Dish Motors
- The Dish Controller
The LNBs get their power from an AC source power supply that ships with the dish and is installed inline with the coax that comes down from the dish.
The Dish Controller gets its power from a supplied AC source power supply.
The Dish Motors get their power and telemetry data from a power/data cable that is prewired to the roof area and then back into the coach - usually to the bedroom closet. Look for a cable with a funky connector on the end of it in the closet.
See attached picture I grabbed from the Winegard manual and added some note to in red.
Does this help? If not, keep asking questions - we're getting close
I believe all Heartland 5th wheels are pre-wired for a Winegard Trav'ler roof mounted dish. For this product, there are three items that require power:
- The LNBs
- The Dish Motors
- The Dish Controller
The LNBs get their power from an AC source power supply that ships with the dish and is installed inline with the coax that comes down from the dish.
The Dish Controller gets its power from a supplied AC source power supply.
The Dish Motors get their power and telemetry data from a power/data cable that is prewired to the roof area and then back into the coach - usually to the bedroom closet. Look for a cable with a funky connector on the end of it in the closet.
See attached picture I grabbed from the Winegard manual and added some note to in red.
Does this help? If not, keep asking questions - we're getting close
Re: 2014 3650rl satellite installation
Jim,
While I hope your comment about all HL 5th wheels being wired for the Wingard Travl'r, I have read other posts on this site saying that the coax is in the ceiling but not the data cable. When you get a minute, could you confirm that two coax cables and one data cable are in the ceiling of the roof satellite prep.
I'm looking at the Big Country 3251TS and that is definitely a positive feature for me.
Bruce
Jim,
While I hope your comment about all HL 5th wheels being wired for the Wingard Travl'r, I have read other posts on this site saying that the coax is in the ceiling but not the data cable. When you get a minute, could you confirm that two coax cables and one data cable are in the ceiling of the roof satellite prep.
I'm looking at the Big Country 3251TS and that is definitely a positive feature for me.
Bruce
jassson007
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Unless something has changed after May, the BC's are prewired for rooftop satellite but not the winegard. What this means is that there are two coax in roof just above a dummy plate on ceiling if bedroom. The power/controler cable is not run like on the bighorns and landmarks. When I had mine installed by camping world in Katy they had to install the power cable but was happy everything else was ran so he did not have to run rest of cables. He did makeup the small jumpers though.
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jassson007
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I had mine run into the front closet through the cabinet and it sits on shelf/dresser on off door side of dresser. The controller, power inserter and signal splitter is all installed there and coax for front and rear tv's exit through same hole back up to roof to tie in with coax that is already ran. If I would have thought about it a little longer I might have had them do it differently but that is what was suggested so I went with it.
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Big Country runs the twin coax satellite lines only.
Thanks for the update Bryan.
Jeff - I believe when you order the Trav'ler kit, a 30 foot power/control cable is included. So in your case, that cable will be needed and will have to be run to wherever you want to mount the dish controller (interface box). A roof penetration will be required.
Jeff - I believe when you order the Trav'ler kit, a 30 foot power/control cable is included. So in your case, that cable will be needed and will have to be run to wherever you want to mount the dish controller (interface box). A roof penetration will be required.
Bryan, thank you for the update. Given that any automatic rooftop dish or dome requires power to make the dish point, wouldn't it be a great next step to run the power/data cable along with the two coax cables during the factory build. Without the power/data cable option, buyers need to drill another hole in the roof and fish the cable into the unit. Since all of your Televisions are HD, continuing the Winegard prep on all units prewired with coax would continue to put HL one step above the rest. On the Big Country, am I able to order the Winegard rooftop prep?
Thank you for following the threads.
Bruce
Thank you for following the threads.
Bruce
No provision. If you want your controller (interface box) in the bedroom closet, it's best to drill straight down through the roof into the bedroom closet area. They can easily fasten the cable to the roof. Where the cable enters the roof, Winegard usually ships a plate that will cover the the hole. I use a lot of sealant in the hole after running a wire through, then sealant before the plate goes on, then more sealant all over the seams of where the plate mates with the roof. It can be done simply and leak-free.
Bruce,
Not sure if Bryan is tracking this thread as I had sent him an email asking him to respond. But in case he doesn't see this, let me add that your suggestion is one Heartland has considered and may yet do one day. Trouble is that as we try to be as price conscious as possible, we don't want to add cost to 100% of the units when only 10% of the buyers will take advantage of the added item. Also, there are other brands of roof-top dishes that use their own data cable that is different than Winegard's. Finally, some people still use a crank-up dish that does not require a data cable at all. An agenda I pushed a few years ago that never got any traction was the addition of an empty flexible conduit that allowed customers and installers to pull whatever they need to the roof. Maybe one day
Thank you for being a new Big Country owners and thank you for your feedback.
jdamude
Well-known member
Can the cable be run in the A/C duct up into the closet area? I like things to be very neat and concealed. I have to say that this news is a little disappointing. The wingard dome dish only needs a twelve volt source as the controller is inside the dome. Does the A/C dust run all the way forward? Can you send me a pictorial of the roof assembly and front closet area?
Thanks for following the forum
Jeff
Thanks for following the forum
Jeff
Ours is run through the outlet above the TV. We put the box in the linen closet next to the dresser (sits with the Genie client on top). Works very well.
Once the dish is set and all is working well, I turn off the power (by unplugging - turning off via the power button would bring dish back down) - box releases heat.
Had this also happen when power tripped....
Once the dish is set and all is working well, I turn off the power (by unplugging - turning off via the power button would bring dish back down) - box releases heat.
Had this also happen when power tripped....
Jeff,
If you want HD service from DirecTV for your HD TVs, you cannot get that from the "dome dish". If you are going with Dish Network, you "can" get HD service from the "dome dish".
The AC duct work extends some distance past the forward most grille, but I'm not sure how much further. I cannot get you a roof drawing - sorry. You can take your grille off to see if it extends as far as the closet. Even if it's close, you can like push through the last few inches of solid foam.
jdamude
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Ok thanks. We take delivery of our new 3650RL this week. I wish we had Direct Tv however we are Canadian and we are restricted from purchasing the programming. We have set ourselves up with Bell Expressvu and the Dish network pay as you go system. Having the wingard traveller would allow us to switch between the two providers from the controller. The dome setup would require changing the dip switches from the dish. My 3650 has duel A/C units and I'm concerned about the footprint the traveller takes. Is there a specified location to mount these units?
Heartland does not have a specific location for where to mount the dish, but the Winegard install manual shows the footprint the dish requires on the roof.
I also have 2 ACs. My Trav'ler is mounted in the center of the roof (side to side) and to the rear of the bedroom AC unit. I do make sure my over-the-air RV antenna is cranked down when then satellite dish is being deployed or stowed.
I also have 2 ACs. My Trav'ler is mounted in the center of the roof (side to side) and to the rear of the bedroom AC unit. I do make sure my over-the-air RV antenna is cranked down when then satellite dish is being deployed or stowed.
Jeff,
I have a Landmark - so the wires were all pre-wired in the roof. They do however, route within the roof system, to the front cap area and then into the side of a cabinet in the closet. That's where my interface box and bedroom receiver are.
That said, the location of the dish versus where the wires come out of the roof are not in the same spot. Probably a few feet away is all.
I have a Landmark - so the wires were all pre-wired in the roof. They do however, route within the roof system, to the front cap area and then into the side of a cabinet in the closet. That's where my interface box and bedroom receiver are.
That said, the location of the dish versus where the wires come out of the roof are not in the same spot. Probably a few feet away is all.
