looking on the Heartland ( Big Horn) web site everything seems like its for 2013.... for instance i saw a brochure that said the slides headroom was 7'4'' but the web site says 6'5'' .... I'm trying to find the differences in a ( Big Horn 3585 vs Big Country 3450 ) and what updates have been made for 2014. i have been to 3 dealers, and no one can point out hardly any differences other than cabinets over the table and some light fixtures , hard to see what the difference in price is all about
2014 Bighorn Changes - Anyone have info?
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jassson007
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
Biggest difference btw the bh and BC is the floor plan. The BC has the original bh floor plan, ie the bh is more of an island and the BC is still a "u" shaped kitchen. My DW liked that better, plus with the bh you loose counter space but gain a cabinet where the u is no longer connected. Other than amenities, they are alike in my book. I can send you some pics of ours if you pm me with your email address.
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Biggest difference btw the bh and BC is the floor plan. The BC has the original bh floor plan, ie the bh is more of an island and the BC is still a "u" shaped kitchen. My DW liked that better, plus with the bh you loose counter space but gain a cabinet where the u is no longer connected. Other than amenities, they are alike in my book. I can send you some pics of ours if you pm me with your email address.
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dbbls59
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
The Big Horn has a power reel built in for the power cord. Not sure if it is standard or an option. Big Country does not however they offer a hand powered reel inside the basement storage. Big Country front and back caps are painted, Big Horn only has partial paint on the front cap. There are probably other differences.
The Big Horn has a power reel built in for the power cord. Not sure if it is standard or an option. Big Country does not however they offer a hand powered reel inside the basement storage. Big Country front and back caps are painted, Big Horn only has partial paint on the front cap. There are probably other differences.
danemayer
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
Hi mslater,
Since the Brand Manager hasn't chimed in yet, I'd suggest you call Heartland Customer Service at 877-262-8032 / 574-262-8030. Identify yourself as a prospective customer and ask to speak with the Big Horn Brand Team. I'm sure they can answer all your questions.
Hi mslater,
Since the Brand Manager hasn't chimed in yet, I'd suggest you call Heartland Customer Service at 877-262-8032 / 574-262-8030. Identify yourself as a prospective customer and ask to speak with the Big Horn Brand Team. I'm sure they can answer all your questions.
Invizatu
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
2014 BIGHORN... Slide height is 6'5" and bedroom is 6'4" The 3260 elite model has 7'4" slide out height.
Not sure about 2013, but the 2014 comes with LED lighting under the awning / correct trac alignment system
I believe they may have made an improvement in the frame welds to avoid flexing.
Probably a few other things that I am not aware of.
2014 BIGHORN... Slide height is 6'5" and bedroom is 6'4" The 3260 elite model has 7'4" slide out height.
Not sure about 2013, but the 2014 comes with LED lighting under the awning / correct trac alignment system
I believe they may have made an improvement in the frame welds to avoid flexing.
Probably a few other things that I am not aware of.
TravelTiger
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
Disregard, I said same thing as another post!
X2 what Dan said!
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
thank you ..... i saw that 7'4'' on a brochure and thought that was typical..... i quess the dealers i have talked to , sell too many brands and don't have a good grasp of all the product lines ....still trying to figure the $30000 difference in b.h. 3585 vs. b.c. 3450 .... "u" shaped kitchen and a couple cabinets... is Big Horn better for some reason ...resale ????
Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
Since we already had a BH and were looking at a BC, we did quite a bit of analysis.
General differences (that we know of) between BC and BH - that most probably can be added/changed as we did quite a bit of that when ordering our new BC: BH has: individual hydraulic valves, rubber mat in basement area, smart light above entry door, window-paned mirror'd doors in bedroom, prepped for Winegard Traveler - BC is prepped for satellite but not Winegard (not a big deal at all), standard bathroom sink with solid surface cover (BC has vessel), 12 gal WH (BC has new Atwood XL that provides 20 gals an hour), black range and microwave (BC is stainless), solid surface range cover (very recent change - BC has stainless), electric bedroom slide (our BC has hydraulic but that doesn't appear to be consistent with other BCs), "touch" wireless remote (BC has keyfob), 65 amp converter (BC has 80 amp converter), per specs BH has a subwoofer and BC does not; however, there have been threads that state the BH does not as well, day/night shades (BC has wooden blinds in living area), and 2 chairs and table is not versa (BC has 4 chairs and versa table (very nice - BH's table is very narrow)).
Decors are different except for Bronze - BC and BH share this decor. BH's living "ultra leather" furniture has top stitching - BC's does not. BH's sofa bed is a roll-over air mattress bed; whereas, BC's is a fold-over sofa bed. BH has a tile look vinyl; BC has a wood plank look. BH's cabinetry is chestnut colored; BC's is dark cherry.
BH has strutted baggage doors; BC has magnetic catches. BH has a front painted cap; BC's front and rear caps are painted.
Do not assume that if a standard is missing in the BC list, that it's not standard - we learned that - examples: BH states that the optional bedroom AC is fully ducted and BC does not state that in regard to the bedroom AC option but it is, the LM states that it has a waterproof LED light in the shower - BC does not indicate that as a standard but it is. We asked many questions regarding standards before ordering. Also, do not assume that if an option is available with a BH or LM that it would not be available for BC or BH. These are all built on the same line.
For 2014 LED lights were added in the RV and under the awning. I think the fully ducted/integrated dual AC's between the living and bedroom area (when bedroom AC is added) is new as well. Prior AC unit in bedroom was low-profile stand-alone and living AC was ducted into bedroom as well. Now the two AC's are full profile as well. (This is true for both the BC and BH.)
Hope this helps.
Theresa
Since we already had a BH and were looking at a BC, we did quite a bit of analysis.
General differences (that we know of) between BC and BH - that most probably can be added/changed as we did quite a bit of that when ordering our new BC: BH has: individual hydraulic valves, rubber mat in basement area, smart light above entry door, window-paned mirror'd doors in bedroom, prepped for Winegard Traveler - BC is prepped for satellite but not Winegard (not a big deal at all), standard bathroom sink with solid surface cover (BC has vessel), 12 gal WH (BC has new Atwood XL that provides 20 gals an hour), black range and microwave (BC is stainless), solid surface range cover (very recent change - BC has stainless), electric bedroom slide (our BC has hydraulic but that doesn't appear to be consistent with other BCs), "touch" wireless remote (BC has keyfob), 65 amp converter (BC has 80 amp converter), per specs BH has a subwoofer and BC does not; however, there have been threads that state the BH does not as well, day/night shades (BC has wooden blinds in living area), and 2 chairs and table is not versa (BC has 4 chairs and versa table (very nice - BH's table is very narrow)).
Decors are different except for Bronze - BC and BH share this decor. BH's living "ultra leather" furniture has top stitching - BC's does not. BH's sofa bed is a roll-over air mattress bed; whereas, BC's is a fold-over sofa bed. BH has a tile look vinyl; BC has a wood plank look. BH's cabinetry is chestnut colored; BC's is dark cherry.
BH has strutted baggage doors; BC has magnetic catches. BH has a front painted cap; BC's front and rear caps are painted.
Do not assume that if a standard is missing in the BC list, that it's not standard - we learned that - examples: BH states that the optional bedroom AC is fully ducted and BC does not state that in regard to the bedroom AC option but it is, the LM states that it has a waterproof LED light in the shower - BC does not indicate that as a standard but it is. We asked many questions regarding standards before ordering. Also, do not assume that if an option is available with a BH or LM that it would not be available for BC or BH. These are all built on the same line.
For 2014 LED lights were added in the RV and under the awning. I think the fully ducted/integrated dual AC's between the living and bedroom area (when bedroom AC is added) is new as well. Prior AC unit in bedroom was low-profile stand-alone and living AC was ducted into bedroom as well. Now the two AC's are full profile as well. (This is true for both the BC and BH.)
Hope this helps.
Theresa
Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
thank you..... thats a better discription than all the sales people combined could give me. i did learn yesterday that new B.H. are going to have a color change .... exterior from brown to dark grey , and furniture will be Broyhill. roller shades , framless windows ....two dealers i have talked to in the last 2 days differ $5000 in price by not understanding all the changes and what comes in package
thank you..... thats a better discription than all the sales people combined could give me. i did learn yesterday that new B.H. are going to have a color change .... exterior from brown to dark grey , and furniture will be Broyhill. roller shades , framless windows ....two dealers i have talked to in the last 2 days differ $5000 in price by not understanding all the changes and what comes in package
dewwood
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
I think you are doing a good job of researching your unit. As others have stated. salesmen at the dealers have lots of different models to learn and some do not do too well about learning their product. Some are very knowledgeable but many are not well versed in what they are selling. I have had salesman tell me things that I knew to be totally incorrect. You are doing the right thing by doing your own research.
I think you are doing a good job of researching your unit. As others have stated. salesmen at the dealers have lots of different models to learn and some do not do too well about learning their product. Some are very knowledgeable but many are not well versed in what they are selling. I have had salesman tell me things that I knew to be totally incorrect. You are doing the right thing by doing your own research.
Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
dealer tried to charge me an extra $1049 for a molded end cap on a B.C. 3450 and $269 for 2 extra dining chairs .... iam starting to become discouraged finding out what iam really buying .... i think the specs ,parts and prices vary daily .... maybe i need to take whats on the lot to know what iam actually getting
dealer tried to charge me an extra $1049 for a molded end cap on a B.C. 3450 and $269 for 2 extra dining chairs .... iam starting to become discouraged finding out what iam really buying .... i think the specs ,parts and prices vary daily .... maybe i need to take whats on the lot to know what iam actually getting
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jassson007
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Check out Great Lakes RV center and speak to Joe W and tell him Andy sent ya. He will work with ya if ya don't mind buying out of state.
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Eagleglenn
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
One item on the 2014 BH that was an option on the 2013 and older models, but now a standard equipment is the auto leveling system. Very nice to have, but you will see the upcharge on the invoice when comparing the difference between the model years.
One item on the 2014 BH that was an option on the 2013 and older models, but now a standard equipment is the auto leveling system. Very nice to have, but you will see the upcharge on the invoice when comparing the difference between the model years.
Invizatu
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GOTTOYS
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Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
I have a 2011 Big Country. Even though mine was built on the same line as the Big Horn and Landmark, it has wood framing not aluminum behind the front and rear end caps as well as fiberglass insulation on both ends. If you pop one of the tailights out it is easy to check for the framing and insulation...Don
I have a 2011 Big Country. Even though mine was built on the same line as the Big Horn and Landmark, it has wood framing not aluminum behind the front and rear end caps as well as fiberglass insulation on both ends. If you pop one of the tailights out it is easy to check for the framing and insulation...Don
Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
I don't believe that the leveling is standard on any of the three - BH, BC, or LM. Still an option.
I don't believe that the leveling is standard on any of the three - BH, BC, or LM. Still an option.
Re: can anyone tell me what changes have been made to the 2014 Big Horns
When we went to the factory all the caps had wood framing behind the caps. They were building both BH and BC that day. The BC's were coming off the line and BH's were in progress.
When we went to the factory all the caps had wood framing behind the caps. They were building both BH and BC that day. The BC's were coming off the line and BH's were in progress.
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