2019 Gateway Pin Box

[Rickmill]

Ordered a 2019 Gateway 3810 RLB at the Tampa RV show. It is supposedly in transit to the dealer I bought it from. I have been unable to get a VIN number yet. Since I have a short bed truck, I want to get a Reese Airborne Sidewinder to put on the Gateway, but I need to know the chassis # or pin box information on the Gateway to get the correct Sidewinder. Customer service at Heartland could not assist me without a VIN number, Lippert customer service won't help me without a chassis ID number. I would think that the chassis / pin box would be the same on all of the 2019 Gateway 3810 RLB units being manufactured. Not sure why I can not get the info. Does anyone out there have a 2019 3810 RLB that can get me the pin box info on their rig? Thanks...

 

[mrcomer]

If you purchased a unit from the dealer then they should be able to get you a VIN. Your paperwork on the purchase should also have the VIN on it.

 

[Rickmill]

It was an ordered unit (wanted double pane windows) so there was no VIN because the unit hadn't been manufactured yet. It seems to me that the dealer would have a VIN now that it is built and in transit. I've called the sales person a couple of times requesting info and the VIN, but they still have not yet provided the info. Frustrating.

 

[CoveredWagon]

Ordered a 2019 Gateway 3810 RLB at the Tampa RV show. It is supposedly in transit to the dealer I bought it from. I have been unable to get a VIN number yet. Since I have a short bed truck, I want to get a Reese Airborne Sidewinder to put on the Gateway, but I need to know the chassis # or pin box information on the Gateway to get the correct Sidewinder. Customer service at Heartland could not assist me without a VIN number, Lippert customer service won't help me without a chassis ID number. I would think that the chassis / pin box would be the same on all of the 2019 Gateway 3810 RLB units being manufactured. Not sure why I can not get the info. Does anyone out there have a 2019 3810 RLB that can get me the pin box info on their rig? Thanks...

How short is the box ?

 

[Gary521]

I think I would hold off on the sidewinder. You definitely need an air pin box. However, I have a short bed with a slider hitch and have never used it.

 

[danemayer]

The dealer gets a build confirmation early in the process, with the VIN #. If the trailer is en route to the dealer, they've had it for quite a while.

 

[SLO]

I think I would hold off on the sidewinder. You definitely need an air pin box. However, I have a short bed with a slider hitch and have never used it.

The Reese Airborne Sidewinder is an air pin box.


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[Rickmill]

How short is the box ?

The F350 has a 6'9" bed.

 

[Bones]

There are a couple different versions of the sidewinder. The Reese elite is the air version.

Here are the pin boxes it fits
For Wing Set Make and Model Numbers:Lippert 1621; Lippert 1621HD; Lippert 0719; Fabex PB-600 Series
This is is from their install sheet.
I don't think the Gateway pin box is going to change from the 1621 model.

 

[Gary521]

The Reese Airborne Sidewinder is an air pin box.


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I know that. The point I was trying to make is that you probably do not need a swinging pin box with a short bed. Does not Heartland advertise an 88 degree swing on their 5th wheel trailers?

 

[CDN]

I know that. The point I was trying to make is that you probably do not need a swinging pin box with a short bed. Does not Heartland advertise an 88 degree swing on their 5th wheel trailers?

Hello,

I have Reese sidewinder on Bighorn moving it to the Landmark. In some instances in forested parks the only way to get into a spot is tight turning the Sidewinder provides. My storage lot requires it at times too depending on which trailers are in .


Brian

 

[Rickmill]

Problem solved.... The unit showed up at the dealer today, and the sales rep texted me pics of the pin box, VIN, Chassis #, etc.

This Gateway has a Lippert 1621 HD pin box. So, with a few internet searches, it looks like the correct Reese 16K Airborne Sidewinder is #RP61422.

The Sidewinder is $1,400 and change on Amazon. I do want an air ride pin box. A Flex Air (for the 1621 HD) is about $1,200 on Amazon. So for about $250, I get the piece of mind, with the Sidewinder, that I wont hit the back of the truck in the event of uneven terrain when turned at the "88 degrees" that Heartland touts.

The only issue I have is that the GVWR of the Gateway is 16K. The Sidewinder is max 16K. So I would be running this at its limit. I talked to a Reese engineer about this today, and he assured me that the 16K Sidewinder would be fine with the 16K coach, there is a lot of cushion built in to the rating. So.... here I go with blind faith that they are conservative with the ratings.

 

[CDN]

Problem solved.... The unit showed up at the dealer today, and the sales rep texted me pics of the pin box, VIN, Chassis #, etc.

This Gateway has a Lippert 1621 HD pin box. So, with a few internet searches, it looks like the correct Reese 16K Airborne Sidewinder is #RP61422.

The Sidewinder is $1,400 and change on Amazon. I do want an air ride pin box. A Flex Air (for the 1621 HD) is about $1,200 on Amazon. So for about $250, I get the piece of mind, with the Sidewinder, that I wont hit the back of the truck in the event of uneven terrain when turned at the "88 degrees" that Heartland touts.

The only issue I have is that the GVWR of the Gateway is 16K. The Sidewinder is max 16K. So I would be running this at its limit. I talked to a Reese engineer about this today, and he assured me that the 16K Sidewinder would be fine with the 16K coach, there is a lot of cushion built in to the rating. So.... here I go with blind faith that they are conservative with the ratings.

I am running 16 k Sidewinder on a 16 k trailer. What hitch do you have? Make sure you get the correct wedge for the hitch.

 

[Bones]

I am running 16 k Sidewinder on a 16 k trailer. What hitch do you have? Make sure you get the correct wedge for the hitch.

Just an FYI. I have my older Sidewinder that I'm no longer using.

 

[Rickmill]

I am running 16 k Sidewinder on a 16 k trailer. What hitch do you have? Make sure you get the correct wedge for the hitch.

B&W Companion. The SWW-06 is supposed to be the correct wedge.

 

[TravelTiger]

Rickmill, I just saw a B&W companion on display at the rv show in Dallas this weekend. It had a sticker saying not to use with offset pinboxes like the sidewinder. You might want to confirm with B&W before making the decision.


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[mrcomer]

You might want to check Tweety's for price.

 

[JWalker]

The FlexAir and Anderson has been a great improvement for us.

If you have any large RV shows near you, you might want to check pricing at the show. 2 years ago, we were able to walk out of the Hershey RV show with a flexAir pin box for $700 out the door. There might be some great deals there on B&W. Especially on Sunday....when they don’t wanna take anything back.

 

[Rickmill]

Rickmill, I just saw a B&W companion on display at the rv show in Dallas this weekend. It had a sticker saying not to use with offset pinboxes like the sidewinder. You might want to confirm with B&W before making the decision.


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I had checked into it, and according to etrailer, a puck mount B&W Companion CAN be used with a Sidewinder, but not the gooseneck mount model. Here is a link to he article...

https://www.etrailer.com/question-205757.html

I think for even more piece of mind I will call B&W this morning.

Thanks for bringing this up and posting.

 

[TravelTiger]

I checked into it, and according to etrailer, a Ford puck mount B&W Companion CAN be used with a Sidewinder, and not the gooseneck mount model. Here is a link to he article...

https://www.etrailer.com/question-205757.html

I think for even more piece of mind I will call B&W this morning.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yes when you said "B&W Companion", I thought the gooseneck adapter version, because that's what we have, and that's the sticker I saw... I looked at it because I didn't think our hitch had that sticker.

Glad to offer some help, if you have the puck mount you'll probably be good to go!




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