jbeletti's 2015 Landmark 365 Ashland

jbeletti

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I picked up my new demo coach last week in Elkhart. It's a 2015 Landmark 365 Ashland with Full-Body Paint with a brown accent.

I'll circle back to this thread to add pictures as soon as I have it cleaned up and all moved into.

EXTERIOR
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More - cleaner RV pics coming soon

INTERIOR
coming soon
 

jbeletti

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My Mods: Added Wastemaster Waste Management System

Some readers my know that I've been using a certain brand/style of sewer hose for a number of years now (since 2008 actually). Doug Swarts invented the Wastemaster Waste Management System many years back. Recently, Lippert purchased from Doug, the Wastemaster product and patents and is now having them produced for them. Link to product page.

I had a chance to tour Lippert's enormous After Market Products facility in South Bend recently, where I picked up the current Wastemaster system. I installed it this morning. I've installed these before, so it only took me about 10 minutes.

Tools/Supplies I Used
  • Wastemaster Waste Management System from Lippert
  • Hack Saw
  • Emory or Sand Cloth
  • ABS or Multi-Purpose Cement
Steps I took
  1. Remove sewer cap from coach as well as the short rubber tether
  2. Using Hack Saw, cut off all 4 barbs for the Bayonet fitting on the sewer outlet
  3. Using Emory or Sand Cloth, sand down any protrusions where you cut off the barbs, then sand around the entire outside of the sewer outlet (about a 1" wide band from the end). Clean dust off sanded area
  4. Add cement to the exterior of the last 1" of the sewer outlet. I added cement to the inside of the CamLock adapter too
  5. Push the CamLock adapter fully onto the sewer outlet in about a 90 degree off position, the carefully twist the adapter into the final position to the Locking Handles are horizontal
That's it. Allow cement time to dry, connect Wastemaster hose to sewer outlet, lock Locking Handles, open valve at the end of the 90 degree Nozzle, walk the sewer hose to the sewer connection at the campground and push the Nozzle/Tapered Rubber Donut into place.

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jbeletti

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Beautiful Jim! Congratulations! Are those a new style aluminum entry steps I see?

Bryce - thanks. Yes, those are the Aluminum Quad Steps from Lippert. I can't say with any certainty when these will be on production units or what a set of them will cost for those who wish to upgrade to them. Time will tell how good they hold up, but after a couple days of using them - I can say "they're really nice". No holes in them either, so puppy dog's nails won't catch in them. Easier to open and close too which is important to Nancy and I'll be a lot of gals.
 

jbeletti

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My Mods: Added Coat Hooks, Robe Hooks, Towel Bars etc.

It's hard for an RV manufacturer to know the specific needs for each RVer when it comes to the towel bars, robe hooks, coat hooks, toilet paper holder etc. Then some prefer certain finishes here versus there etc. For us, I know that we want things mounted in places and at heights that work for us.

To my knowledge, the LM 365 product does not current include any of these items. From experience, I know to hit my nearest Lowes (or similar). Hit one last night in Knoxville, TN and spent a couple hours this morning getting it all installed. Below are some pictures.

Bath Towel Management - Bars to dry and store current towels and a hook near shower for the in-use towel
Bath Towel Bar under Commode Room Overhead Cabinet.jpg Bath Towel Bar on Commode Room Door.jpg Bath Towel Hook next to Shower.jpg

Hand Towel Management and Toilet Paper Holder
Hand Towel Ring - Bedroom Sink.jpg Hand Towel Ring and Toilet Paper Holder - Commode Roon.jpg

Robe and CPAP Hose Management
Robe Hook - 01.jpg Robe Hook - 02.jpg Hook for CPAP Hose - 01.jpg Hook for CPAP Hose - 02.jpg

Various Hooks in Various Places for Light Jackets, Dog Leashes, Umbrellas etc.
Dog Leash and Light Jacket Hooks inside Entrance Door.jpg Light Jacket Hooks in Laundry Closet.jpg Hooks fo Misc in Laundry Closet.jpg
 

jbeletti

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My Mods: Added Furniture Glides to Legs of Hi-Lo Desk/Coffee Table

We opted for the Hi-Lo Desk/Coffee Table in our LM 365. This unit is made from solid wood and is heavy, even before adding anything inside of it. When breaking camp, this table must be turned 90 degrees so it's inline with the island - thus allowing the opposing slides to close.

To aid in turning this table, I added those slick, hard plastic furniture mover / floor protector items - one to each leg. I used the type with the nail in it and banged them on with a hammer. I figure I'll have longer term success with these than I would using the ones with an adhesive pad.

Hi-Lo Desk Glide - 01.jpg Hi-Lo Desk Glide - 02.jpg
 

jbeletti

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My Mods: Screen Door Cross Bar and Closer Springs

The first mods I did to this unit was add the Screen Door Cross Bar and add the Screen Door Closer Springs. Both simple, inexpensive and useful mods that I do to each coach.

Screen Door Cross Bar.jpg Screen Door Spring.jpg
 

jbeletti

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My Mods: 3M Command Products

Sounds like a shameless plug, but as many RVers know, the 3M Command products are pretty handy around the RV. Sams and Costco carry larger packs of these are a lower cost per item than smaller stores.

The first item I used was a metal hook. In the kitchen, I hung up the silicone lids Nancy uses when microwaving items that may pop.

3M Command Hook - Silicone Covers.jpg
 

ILH

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Jim,

Notwithstanding that LCI's link isn't working right now, I've looked at several youtube videos for waste master. The product looks really good. Any chance we can convince LCI to make it available at the Rally?
 

travelin2

Pennsylvania Chapter Leaders-retired
Jim
Looks good and cam locks do provide a secure seal but how do you plan to handle any tank valve leakage? I have a tiny bit and added the additional valve on the outlet so I don't have any surprises when I uncap.


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Rcnewell11

Active Member
Congrats jim on new unit .we really love ours .i had a few issues with off door slide and don in service at HL walked me through on the fix .it was slipping gear teeth on tubes for the 3 rd time at hope we have it fixed now.lippert had fix for it on there web site .I added a lot of the same options as u did on towel bars and etc...enjoy
 

busted2341

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Re: My Mods: Added Wastemaster Waste Management System

Hey Jim, Great looking rig. We are even more excited for ours to arrive. Same colors!...All the bars and hooks look good, thanks for the ideas. We have been trying to plan for where we can attach "things". Thanx for all the pics......We can't wait to post some!,,,Frank
 

jbeletti

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Jim,

Notwithstanding that LCI's link isn't working right now, I've looked at several youtube videos for waste master. The product looks really good. Any chance we can convince LCI to make it available at the Rally?

Ian - yes, they will be selling these at the rally. A couple other products round out their "Sewerage" line, for lack of a better term.

They have a companion piece to the Wastemaster that is a storage compartment. I have one but need find time to install it. I'll document that here when I install it.

Then they have the the Flow-Down product (link) they bought recently. It's a Sewer Hose Support System. I've had one for a year and use it when I'm setup for longer than a few days. Especially when the slope of the land dictates it.

The last item recall in this category is their own version of a waste tank vent cap. It requires very little wind to vent your tank. I have seen the product but don't have any - so no firsthand experience just yet
 

jbeletti

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Re: My Mods: Added Wastemaster Waste Management System

Hey Jim, Great looking rig. We are even more excited for ours to arrive. Same colors!...All the bars and hooks look good, thanks for the ideas. We have been trying to plan for where we can attach "things". Thanx for all the pics......We can't wait to post some!,,,Frank

Happy to give you ideas Frank. I'll continue to document and post most of my mods. It's a great way to archive an RV project and an even better way to share it with others who might find it of interest.
 

jbeletti

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Congrats jim on new unit .we really love ours .i had a few issues with off door slide and don in service at HL walked me through on the fix .it was slipping gear teeth on tubes for the 3 rd time at hope we have it fixed now.lippert had fix for it on there web site .I added a lot of the same options as u did on towel bars and etc...enjoy

Ho Rob - sorry to hear you had slide issues. So that I may learn to recognize the signs, how did you know you had an issue? I'm guessing it was louder and maybe jerky?
 

jbeletti

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Jim
Looks good and cam locks do provide a secure seal but how do you plan to handle any tank valve leakage? I have a tiny bit and added the additional valve on the outlet so I don't have any surprises when I uncap.


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Lyle - I hear you. I've had the CamLock system on 6 coaches now. And there have been times where I've had some "sewer cap surprises". Generally, any liquid I've had behind my cap has been residual that was left in the lines, past the tank gate valves - likely due to insufficient fall on the lines based on install or pitch of my coach.

As a matter or course, I generally have the sewer hose camlock end in my hand while I remove the sewer cap with my other hand. I hold the sewer hose below the sewer output to catch anything present there. Usually very little to none.

This all said, with the coach I just turned in, I was getting some "black tank surprise" a while back. I ended up having the black tank valve replaced. After they removed it, it was obvious there was toilet paper impacted into the blade slot. We changed the valve anyway as I had one with me.

Then more recently, my galley gray tank was not sealing well. I turned the coach in like that and am having the plant replace that valve. But with this valve leak, it was the most problematic for me. We were on the road much of this past January and February and found ourselves in sub-freezing weather many times. On freezing days, I could not leave my sewer hose hooked up as the water from the galley gray would constantly drain as the sink was used. That could have caused a frozen mess. So we had to be careful.

To my knowledge, neither Valterra nor Camco make a plastic 3" external style gate valve with a male to female camlock fitting. I think one could be Frankensteined together with adapters but it would really extend the discharge outlet. Perhaps one day Lippert will make such a valve.

On edit: Let the Frankensteining begin :)

3" Male Camlock x 3" MPT -> 3" Gate Valve 3" FPT x 3" FPT -> 3" MPT x 3" Female Camlock
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So - there are 3 off-the-shelf parts that could do the task of providing an external gate valve with Camlock fitting on both sides (M to F). It would probably stick out at least 6" more than a bayonet x bayonet valve.. Perhaps the sewer outlet could be cut back a bit to minimize the projection...

Further edit - Frankenstein Light

Perhaps there's a better way. Purchase a Gate Valve 3" Slip x 3" Slip. Hack it into the 3" line that is parallel to the frame before the sewer line makes the 90. Or to make the valve more "replaceable", purchase a Gate Valve 3" FPT x 3" FPT and use 3" MPT adapters. This way, you can spin the valve off (I guess :))
Project - Insert Gate Valve Before Sewer Output.jpg

Materials Sources:
3" Camlocks - link
3" Gate Valves w/ Plastic Paddles - Link to Mfr site --- Link to product on Amazon.com
 
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porthole

Retired
Looks to be a good factory option to me - have the flush king installed on the build.

Cutting that pipe flush and trying to get the inner piece out, I just don't think that will work.

But, it looks like you have enough pipe that you could just cut the sweep out and put a new one in with a pair of pipe connectors. That's about what I did on the Cyclone.

Further edit - Frankenstein Light

Perhaps there's a better way. Purchase a Gate Valve 3" Slip x 3" Slip. Hack it into the 3" line that is parallel to the frame before the sewer line makes the 90. Or to make the valve more "replaceable", purchase a Gate Valve 3" FPT x 3" FPT and use 3" MPT adapters. This way, you can spin the valve off (I guess :))
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klindgren

Retired Virginia Chapter Leaders
Thanks for the pics Jim. I've done several of the same additions (TP holder, towel rods, etc.) Looks good. Can't wait to get a look at it in Myrtle Beach.
 

travelin2

Pennsylvania Chapter Leaders-retired
Jim,
If the cam lock fitting is a standard size, these fittings have been used for years and can be easily found at Tractor Supply. Therefore I'd bet the various components could be obtained to adapt your Frankenstein further back under the coach without issue if it became necessary. BTW I'd prefer to have a clear view of the tank contents emptying at the coach end of the hose close to the UDC instead of / in addition to the sewer inlet end 15' away.


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